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Shaking up the Salt Myth: The Dangers of Salt Restriction
Best of luck to you and everyone who wants to beat diabetes and be healthy again. I freaked when my PCP said I should be on injected insulin with my a1c at 11 and my blood sugars wayyyy off the chart. Type 1 Type 2. I wanted to know my exact stats for a reference line, as well as a full work up heart stress test, ultra sound scans of my liver, kidney, etc…. Diabetes can cause the nephrons to thicken and scar, which make them less able to filter waste and remove fluid from the body. That might make a difference.

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Some people had more than one amputation, some on both sides of the body. I believe there is even research data to support this conclusion. However when there is insufficient dietary sodium the control mechanism would be unable to function.

Notably, the animals are simply given access without restriction. Once again we have the bunglers regulating something taken care of by evolution, something they apparently never studied, along with any consideration of all-cause mortality. Salt licks a non essential compound as inorganic sodium chloride have no metabolic correlation to essential organic sodium, a required nutrient. Most farmers would expect and want their herds to remain nearby where an addictive substance was made available.

That was a sign that there was salt enough to sustain life and provide an income to those who settled there. Many towns and indeed great cities arose because salt was available. Most dynasties, Chinese for instance were funded on salt tax, because salt is essential to life. You simply die without it. There is no such thing. Sodium cannot exist except as NaCl. It conflagrates with exposure to air. Avery Island, home of McIhennyTabasco sauce is built on millions of tons of solid salt.

Mountains in the Mid-East are solid salt. Mayhap you mean the Ghandi salt. Well, I should not say that. Most sea salts are combination salts. These elements do not exist except as salts. You would rather eat a piece of an animal that ate a rock. That makes you feel OOH so less bad. Only a fool believes that. No one dies because they do not ingest salt.

I have been told and agree not all salt is made the same and sea salt is the best to use. Maybe someday you will discuss the differences? And my mother has it ingrained in her mind we need Iodine salt, is there research on that? I agree our bodies tell us how much salt we need. My 12 year old daughter was constantly putting LOTS of salt on her food. We were always telling her to stop putting so much salt on her food. We had her tested because she has food sensitivities and we were afraid she was malnourished She was actually sodium deficient.

Sodium chloride, salt or NaCl, is the worst possible way to satisfy the bodies need for organic sodium. No doubt, without an adequate or required abundant supply of an essential nutrient, organic sodium, the nearest evil, inorganic salt, was the only available substitute.

This salt sodium chloride in no way fulfils essential sodium deficiency, it is merely an attempt to grab sodium in any form available, even if that form is second rate, or even toxic, to satisfy low organic sodium. In the long run, sodium chloride, instead of abundant organic sodium could be a metabolic nightmare in the making. No, we need sodium chloride, it is the fluid our entire body runs on.

If it did, in emergencies people could be put on MSG drips. We need our internal oceans. I also recall watching a show on elephants in Africa that make some epic pilgrimage every so often to a natural salt dense area and gorge on salt. Yet another Western medicine backwards piece of garbage advice. But that is the bulk of Western medicine, so one can hardly be surprised.

I do have some reservations for refined salt however and personally only use Himalayan or other naturally occurring sea salts. For diagnosis of substance dependence addiction , seven criteria apply and fulfilling at least tree of them signifies addiction. When studied, salt intake according to these criteria, it is seen that most of them are fulfilled, showing that sodium chloride, which is not classified under the psychoactive drugs, is capable of producing addiction.

Animals may become addicted. Interestingly there is a massive referenced article on the fraudulent claims of the delusional Joel Wallach here if you want an insight into his misconceptions. Himalayas are WAY up in the mountains.. For thousands of years mankind has followed animals to find where salt could be found. Those of you who say you can live on the salt in your diet would die because if there WERE no salt for an animal to lick, there would be no animals for you to get salt from their meat.

THEY would have died off for lack of salt. There are salt domes that contain millions of tons of salt worth billions. Some are pure white, NaCl. Eating salt some are different color, Mg, Mn whatever the only source of some of the strategic metals we need.

You want pure seasalt, go to India buy what Go fought the British for,the right to gather salt off the sea. It did not pay tax, so it was forbidden. Most of the world has been financed by salt, whether by tax or by selling price. Absolutely vital to human life or the animals we eat.

Google makes us all so smart, does it not? You may not understand what Google says, but you can damned well mimic it. What issue was it from? Yes, I have seen the effects of an inappropriately low-salt diet in some of my patients. It is particularly an issue for those with depleted adrenals. Poor adrenal function means they produce less cortisol and less aldosterone, which is needed to reabsorb sodium. And of course cortisol and aldosterone are built on a backbone of cholesterol.

For some people improving fat digestion is the key that makes a difference. With salt reduction, there is a small physiological increase in plasma renin activity and aldosterone. So might this actually be of benefit to your point about weak adrenals and lack of aldosterone? Fat digestion might simply be giving the permeable cell the correct fats first? So adjust two food stuffs and a number of issues might resolve themselves? In the studies you have referenced, was iodine in salt controlled for?

For many in western countries iodized salt would be the main source of iodine in diet, which begs the question whether the correlations shown are linked to sodium or iodine. Someone please help me with the conversions here. The study Chris cites indicates 4 to 6 grams of salt excreted in urine per day is associated with lowest CVD risks. They are measuring by weight and not by sodium density? By my calculations, one teaspoon of salt is roughly 4.

Anyone excreting 4 to 6 grams of sodium chloride daily will sooner or later run into serious glomeruli filtration problems. You will also get your necessary chloride from plants. The RDA of salt requirements is a figure for corporations to exist, whilst their food sits on shelves. Do you have a citation for glomeruli filtration problems? There are a lot of Paleo people doing more than four grams of sodium a day and not showing any adverse effects.

My bad, we are talking salt. I was just asking for citations showing 4 to 6 grams of sodium chloride excretion would cause the problem you cited. Effect of dietary sodium chloride on the development of renal glomerular and vascular lesions in hypertensive rats. The hypothesis that high levels of NaCl in the diet aggravates hypertension-associated renal vascular lesions was examined in unilaterally nephrectomized deoxycorticosterone acetate treated DOCA and two kidney one clip 2K1C hypertensive rats, as well as normotensive controls.

In 2K1C rats this effect may be in part independent of blood pressure. I grant you the grams aren't indicated, but this amount of excretion and therefore intake of toxic NaCl is in my opinion, high, in fact very high.

I am sorry the figures that you or I quoted, are not included, but in the spirit of saving one's kidneys from the eventual slow but sure damage in later life, that I have personally witnessed, grams of salt is a high intake for anyone, even the metabolically challenged; who would be far better off using Organic salts of sodium from plants, which are the essential nutritive cellular sodium requirement, and not to substitute this with the short term gain, but long term damage of NaCl.

During the s I worked for an internist, Irwin Salkin, M. I typed the document but do not retain any of the details after so many decades, but find it interesting that recent, widely quoted, articles detail findings similar to those he noted some FIFTY years ago.

An article discussing the weaknesses of relying on those mentioned J-curve studies http: An article discussing the dissonant findings regarding moderate salt consumption and CVD http: Thank you for this. It now seems that low sodium may be the cause. I also found a very informative New York Times article about this topic: The problem with that interesting link, is that their is no mention of whether the salts in question were organic from plant base material, equalling useful metabolic sodium, or from inorganic salt, less useful for human metabolism.

Rock based minerals are not so readily or easily absorbed by the body as plant based minerals. Plant based material fulfils all the electrolytes for a reasonably healthy person, and are the correct organic source for sodium and other salts.

How did you come by this idea? There are good moral grounds perhaps but scientific and health grounds seem highly unlikely. Plus, there is no such thing as organic sodium. As for the false notion that there is no such thing as organic salts of sodium, how has humanity in antiquity survived without the essential? Photosynthesis combines photons with inorganic matter to create organic matter, also known as plants. Well, yes, powdered nails are a perfectly acceptable source of iron for the body.

In fact, most fortified breakfast cereals contain iron filings your powdered nails and these dissolve in your stomach acid and are absorbed and used. Why on earth would they not be? Also, the distinction between organic and inorganic is basically a formal distinction between two branches of chemistry, and not somehow something different about the matter involved.

So the sodium ions from any source are indistinguishable once they enter solution in your bloodstream. Finally, photons are immaterial particles whose role in photosynthesis is just to supply the energy for the matter both organic and inorganic substrate, by the way to be converted from one form to another. I thought you would be an advocate of heavy metal acceptance in junk food. None the less, thank you for the response, I really do appreciate it.

We will never agree. I will never choose to get my minerals from any other source than plants. The cell membrane is far too important to be plaguing it with ferrous from ground up nails.

The chemical reaction may be the process or concept which fools people into believing that iron from nails is ok but the cellular response is in no way the same. I wish we could meet, because these posts are limited for various reasons, and we can endlessly put varying views, but will always fundamentally disagree. I am tired of the way scientists view food, they gave us hydrogenated fats for decades, convinced the science was good, only to discover in fact, a toxic, lethal cellular disaster If you would like to swap a link, that would be a nice conclusion.

I think this one among many is interesting. While it is true that the same minerals found in the human body are also found in the soil and water it is wrong to assume that the minerals in the soil are food for man. We are not soil eaters—we are plant eaters. It is necessary that the minerals in the soil be elaborated into organic compounds by the plant before they can be assimilated by the body.

The various mineral compounds produced by the chemist differ in their structure and in the relative positions of their component molecules than those produced in the plant. Over sixty years ago a German scientist named Abderhalden conducted a series of experiments comparing how several species absorbed different forms of iron. He found that animals fed with food poor in iron, plus in addition of inorganic iron, were unable in the long run to produce as much hemoglobin as those, receiving a natural iron-sufficient diet.

While the inorganic iron may be absorbed into the body, it is not utilized in the formation of hemoglobin, but remains unused within the tissues. Abderhalden also concluded that any apparent benefit of the inorganic iron resulted from its stimulating effect. Chemically, it is true that iron in the bloodstream and iron in nails are the same and that calcium in rocks known as dolomite is identical to calcium in the bones. However, it is a grave error to believe that the body can digest and assimilate and utilize powdered nails and crushed rocks.

Presumably your plants get their salt from minerals as salt is just a mineral. Someone that is exercising salt restriction but still sticking to low-sodium processed foods would most likely be not consuming a lot of potassium. Conversely, someone consuming whole foods no salt added will be getting lots of potassium while still not getting a ton of salt. Can you please check this https: His treatment to any disease and advice to lead happy life is no salt and oil in diet.

He says that sodium required by body in less than mg per day and these can be achieved by eating cup of cooked spinach or any leafy vegetables. I eat nothing processed and live on vegetables fruits nuts seeds. Unless you are metabolically challenged there is enough sodium in above diet. Sodium and salt are not interchangeable terms.

As for farmers using salt licks, this has no bearing on metabolic needs, as like humans, animals can become addicted to sodium chloride. I have experiential proof, as does the naturopath mentioned. Vegetables and fruits contain sodium as an individual electrolyte and they contain chloride as an individual electrolyte. This in no way equates to vegetables or fruits containing salt. Salts of sodium yes, salts of chloride yes, but they most certainly do not contain a compound NaCl.

That should tell anyone something. Why do people love to bring out addiction? It would help immensely. I have severe pain in my knees and hips and recently been getting cramps in my fingers and calves, I sauna almost every day, could my symptoms be caused by lack of salt due to sweating. I am male, 55, and otherwise fit and well. Can anyone help please?. And of course right here on Chris Kresser, he goes into lots of detail in his articles about this. Just stay the course because it takes a while but this is really the key.

Also another great tip is to have half a teaspoon of fermented cod liver oil — fermented! Have you tried Glucosamine or any substance with it? Maybe Chondroiton as well , whichever works. Sometimes they are combined and work just fine. After six months my health started deteoriating badly,Problem with my vision, general weakness and also develop a huge appetite.

Always having aches all over my body. I collapsed with driving one day and was ambulanced to the hospital ,to recomend low salt. I knew there was something wrong with my salt level. I told the doctor how i might need salt. Immediately i was given salt intravenously, i became o. I started adding salt to all my foods even my morning milk. I discovered after a week saltrying my foods.

I love this article of this writter. The paleolthic people were never highly populated. May be because of low salt diet makes them to die young and also infertile. My wife has not conceived once since our 8yrs marriage living on low salt diet. I have been on a no salt diet for some time, meaning no salt at all and i have to disagree with many things that are stated in this article.

First of all the studies talk about a danger in a low sodium diet, but here the author is equating salt as the only source of sodium in a diet, implying that if one does not eat salt then one will not have enought sodium in their diet. This is definetly not true, as there are many good organic sources of sodium out there, celery being one example.. Much about the bogus salt lick argument here: I looked at the sodium content of foods I eat and I still get sodium.

I crave certain restaurant food and processed food I used to eat. When I eat them, like the ridiculously salty cookies at whole foods, then unpleasant symptoms occur. The unpleasant are numerous. What would they be? Well said, the most basic and simple truths are that plants have organic sodium in abundance. For the average person, not metabolically challenged by health problems, plant based sodium would always suffice electrolyte needs. If we are metabolically challenged, then the plant kingdom has all the earths minerals to help set the balance right again.

MSG has a bad reputation. Nothing too awful about it other than it makes people cut out sodium chloride. Sodium alone does nothing good for you whatsoever. Sodium chloride NaCl is not essential for life. I am still alive! Those studies are still just correlations. For reference 5, the last thing any physician in their mind would do is to suggest increasing salt intake for hypertensives.

A low-sodium diet in this case would obviously be the opposite of what is needed. According to TCM, the kidney-adrenal function weakens in old age, and salt acts to stimulate the kidneys.

Therefore, the elderly do benefit from a moderate amount of salt and a low-sodium diet would be contraindicated. According to TCM and Western Medicine, if you or any other animal for that matter consumes too much salt, it will most definitely increase your blood pressure, put strain on your heart muscle, and long term, it will damage your kidneys among other things.

It is my understanding that Americans consume on average, way more than the recommended limit because of widespread usage of processed and junk food. The last thing anyone on a SAD diet should do is to increase their salt intake.

Salt requirements vary widely by individual. In the long run, you risk numerous health complications. For those on a meat-centric paleo diet, salt intake must usually be higher to compensate for the excess of meat. Salt is alkalizing and lubricating and is therefore craved by those eating too much meat, which is what paleo entails.

My pulse goes very high and I lose glucose control. So the first problem with your post is that you only look at what high sodium can do and you fail to address what low sodium can do. My low sodium went undetected by four doctors for three months and destroyed my health. Second, you are committing the fallacy of designing the diet to treat the symptom without first understanding is the symptom the result of the diet.

The hypertensive may be suffering because of low sodium. The correct solution for that patient is to normalize sodium levels. Here is how scary my low sodium became. If would walk for one hour low intensity and then drink water to satisfy thirst. But because of low sodium kidneys excreted all that water quickly. I would spend entire nights every hour getting up desparately thirsty and drinking, immediately urinating, never resolving dehydration.

If would describe these symptoms to multiple doctors and not one could figure it out. We have a very complicated set of different measurements, one thing creates another reaction, etc. Some laws or behaviours for how certain body parts and chemicals work may be the same but our starting points within our bodies vary WILDLY. We are like different types of cars with different types of engines where some parts work well and others work differently, the gears and belts may all generally operate the same, but the current state of ones parts and fluids are never identical to the other, plus wear and tear and enviro exposure is totally different!

So keeping with this analogy, a mechanic cannot apply the exact same remedy to each vehicle with all these varying situations thinking it will all be the same result.

So arguing and accusing or whatever can really be a waste of energy just rile us up for no reason. Become our own health managers. Wonderfully considered comment and I thank you for that. I would like to add one point re the mechanic analogy, with which I whole heartedly agree. He would of course, no matter at all, what the engines symptoms were, never put contaminated oil or petrol in the engine if he could help it.

So hopefully everyone would follow suit and never put contaminated, industrialised and processed junk food salt in their bodies, whatever their health.

Same choice available as the mechanic. So often a different choice made by humans. Sodium chloride is not a necessity for survival if equal amounts of organic sodium are used.

That is very common. My husband is in the same situation and was advised in hospital to up his salt consumption. There are people that are salt sensitive… http: Frequently, the elderly people who have low sodiums are sickly, taking a lot of meds including ones that lower their serum sodium such as diuretics , so it may be a stretch to say that the low sodium causes their problems primarily. Jackie, have a look at Dr.

Just a thought I had while I read your post about you consciously adding salt, while still craving sugar.

She advocates as a life style. I surprise myself because I was such a staunch believer in being a vegetarian and did NOT want to believe gerson might not be the miracle I thought it was. Keep up the good work, Chris, very interesting. Good point, I used to be worried about salt intake as well however himalayan salt and sea salt have trace minerals we evolved with and need for our bodies, and have been abundant in many materials on the earth throughout human history.

The exposure and necessity of salt is totally different than that of sugar. Firstly, sugar was only available from honey and sweet fruit which was rare because fruits are sweeter today than they used to be — they are hybridized to be bigger and sweeter plus they only were available once a year- when they fell off the tree, and fattened us up for the winter famine when less food was available.

We have to eat the way our bodies evolved to eat. Eating as whole and natural and historical as possible right? Same thing, same thing, same thing.

Sugar bad, healthy salt good. Great talk by Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride called Food is the best Medicine and she explained this neurology craving topic very well. Noakes himself will admit that sodium supplementation is not necessary, even for long, hot and humid events, due to endogenous sodium stores and decreased loss via kidney excretion. I believe over consumption of fluids, particularly water, is actually a much bigger problem than most think. Matt Stone has done a great job reporting on it and what can be done about it.

Dilution of the fluids at the cellular level causes people to dump water — causing symptoms such as a very strong urge to urinate, anxiety, adrenaline rush, light headedness, fatigue, etc. People should check out this interview with: Very few people die of lack of water but do die of lack of salt s.

If really dehyrated you need electrolytes and fluids, not water. And in general, drink just enough water and a tiny bit extra, in hot weather or working hard carry water and salty snacks with you. Subscribing to set diet rules and recommendations is like driving down a road blind folded. Sure there are some great general guidelines to follow such as eating whole natural foods and staying away from PUFAs, gut irritants, etc.

I have to disagree with the intuition approach. I cut back on salt because I was eating it like a food unto itself. But you might want to see a doctor about it. David, if you mean 8. You should probably see a doctor and get a diagnosis. For the past 14 years, I have hypoglycemic episodes. For the sake of accuracy, I looked back on all of my bloodwork for the past 3 years and my Glucose level has consistently been I am normally a 70s BG girl.

On the 31st of May, approximately 2 hours after eating a very good lunch, I started experiencing sweating, shaky, blurry vision, nausea, and a really bad headache. This all came on extremely fast, with little to no warning.

By the time I finished with my patient, I got some change to walk to the vending machine and could no longer walk straight or formulate sentences.

I ended up laid out on my office floor trying to shove a Snicker bar into my mouth. On my way home from work about 2 hours later, I stopped and bought a glucose meter. My result was An hour later, it was An hour after that, I completed the GTT this past Friday. I tested before I left home and got The test started at 8: I tested at home again at about Since the event on May 31st, my levels have ranged between 72 — I do not eat breakfast and have consistently been in the high 90 — range while fasting.

My GTT results were given today and all bloodwork appears normal. The nurse did say that I am not producing something, but I did not catch it and when asked later the nurse is my mother in law , she could not remember, but said it starts with a G. This morning, I was upon wakening. At the 2 hour mark after lunch baked chicken, zuchinni, squash, asparagus, and eggplant , I started with the bad headache, sweating, and shaking. I tested and got I grabbed a Coke and started sipping and an hour later, it was I ate dinner spaghetti and corn 2 hours ago and am currently at Can anyone shed some light on what it going on?

I also feel like I should mention that I eat healthy for the most part and have lost 55 pounds, with 35 pounds being since November. I have also noticed an increase in thirst, urination, and of all things, really dry lips. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, I almost never leave comments on blogs etc, but in this case I wanted to add a comment in the hope that it may help. Your symptoms sound almost exactly what happened to the nanny my wife and I employ to help with our four young children — loss of weight 35 lbs , dizzy, passing out, etc.

After going to the emergency 3 times and 4 doctors visits looking at many things, they finally found it was her Thyroid T3 levels too high that was causing all the problems. All normal sometimes, overactive the next day causing all the problems. The weight loss and the crazy blood sugar levels were the biggest signs. I would hate to point you in the wrong direction and again, I have no medical training, so please remember this when considering my suggestion.

I hope you feel better soon! I have made an appointment with an endocrinologist to follow up. I will follow up on this for sure. I really want to feel better soon! Hi Rebecca, it sounds like you may have what is called reactive hypoglycemia. It can be managed, although you should follow up with your PCP. Your fasting numbers are prediabetic, so some medicine, bitter melon tea, or vinegar at bedtime might help.

I was thinking the same thing. I am going to see an endocrinologist on July 8th to follow up and get more information. It has also been suggested that I am producing too much insulin given that my glucose levels decrease as I eating instead of increase. I have been testing before eating, 15 minutes in, and 2 hours after and my numbers are always lower 15 minutes and 2 hours later then they were before eating. My A1C is 7. You may be running high at other times, or the A1C could be wrong, or your meter could be wrong.

Please check your Glucometer. I was facing the same problem. Error was in my Glucomer. Also check your A1C test from some other lab…. Sheraz, Sorry to have missed your question. An HbA1c of 7. Is there a diabetes educator or doctor you can work with? Stevia does not raise blood sugar levels. Hi Adarsh, Bitter fruit will probably help her diabetes a lot.

I am not familiar with neem, but there are a lot of anecdotal reports of it helping. You want to get her numbers down farther, and those are good places to start.

Hi Biccipital, It sounds like your mother needs stronger medicine. Last Wednesday I came into work at 6 A. We checked my sugar throughout the day and it stayed about Stress is a natural thing when sugar level is disturb.

May be you are vit b12 deficient, if you are pure vegetarian. When your blood sugar drops your body will produce adrenaline to keep you alive. Adrenalin will cause you to have headache and body aches a clammy feeling sweating tingling and numbness. Bitter gourd Juice will help but regular use of neem and bitter gourd juice will disturb her stomach Personal experience. Diet control is a good thing but please consult with your doctor her sugar level will be easily managed with a single tablet per day.

She can do some indoor exercise it will help. Try to relax her may be she is in stressed condition. Stress disturb glucose levels.

I hope you are controlling her diet. Yes that is a normal reading. The evening BP is a little elevated but not high. With regular diet and exercise you will be good. Megan, there may be something wrong with your meter. You could work on getting those numbers down with diet, exercise, bitter melon, or metformin if your doctor prescribes it.

Shantha, your BP is a little high at night. Exercise, relax, ask your doctor about medication. I am 15 with no known diabetic issues, although it does run in the family. I was violently shaking, sweating, and my arms had the pins and needles feeling. I had really dry mouth, and had my dad test my blood sugar, which read 39, I still had no appetite, and had to force food to stay down, as I was vomiting profusely last night. Next time, keep sipping fluids with a bit of sugar to keep from getting so dry and so low.

My dad is identified with diabetes 3 months back. He is 69 years old now. Today PPBS reading is Is it too low? FBS is ranging from I had been insulin resistant since and was always in the range or lower. Now this year my numbers have been getting high. I had a fasting blood draw and it was but they then told me that my A1C was 5. The doc states that since my A1C was only 5. But my sugar seems to run high in the morning then dropping to during the afternoon then back up — at night.

I got the Dx of insulin resistance at age 13 when I passed out on the school bus. I had gotten really sick the night before and skipped breakfast as I was running late.

You have diabetes symptoms with normal blood sugars. I would ask for a referral to an endocrinologist and bring all the labs you have from the last 30 years. There are a few people for whom the A! C is just not accurate. Keep records and show your doctor.

I also have purple spots on my arms. I am diabetic and stopped drinking after 16 years of nonstop daily heavy drinking 20 or more a day. Here lately i have been taking LARGE amounts of advil and aspirin for chronic back pain and a bad tooth. I stopped drinking over a month ago. Also i am obese with an under active thyroid and they upped my medication on that from mcg to today. Roger, good for you for stopping the drinking.

Yes, Advil and aspirin may be lowering your platelets and causing the purple spots. Your low thyroid contributes to the obesity.

Hopefully everything will get better on your increased dose and if you can stop overdoing the painkillers. Read online about ways to manage back pain and toothache. Fantastic about stopping the pain killers and alcohol, and the walking.

This will take time, but you are on a good path. One cookie turns into 6, or one donut into 2. What does the number really say? I asked my Dr for an hba1c and he just laughed at me saying there is no way I have diabetes. I also drink and urinate a lot but that may be a byproduct of exercising about 15 hours a week. Anyway, should I bug my Dr about it more or am I freaking out too much? Hi i am 31 years old healthy never had any problem until on 5th June during a preventive health checkup my random blood sugar was I was told that i am diabetic later all other tests confirmed me diabetic, fasting blood sugar reported Hi Kirshan, Good job getting your numbers down.

You will have to try some things and see what works. I hope you also check after-meal sugars occasionally. Those can be a significant problem, too. You should never eat before you go to sleep because of dawn phenomenon, look at foods that lowers your carbohydrates intake a day, so cut back on total carbohydrates intake a day. I am 60 and retired, do not smoke, do not really drink… perhaps 3x per year, do not do drugs — never have. I am also disabled, had spinal surgery many times, and knee surgery…..

Other issue is I have had a great deal of Stress in my life and almost daily….. I am and my weight is up to from lbs, but I do have a lot of muscle mass from prior exercise. I have had 2 full blood test over the past 3 months for specific reasons feeling tired, sweating more than normal, and urinating a lot more than normal — but I do drink a lot of fluids, too. I wanted to know my exact stats for a reference line, as well as a full work up heart stress test, ultra sound scans of my liver, kidney, etc….

My stress test was great and my arteries clear of build up, etc. My kidney scan showed one kidney about 1 inch wider and 1 inch taller than the other but overall were fine. The Creatinine levels were within normal range. There were a few areas on my blood test I wanted to improve on the numbers, and have, such as Cholesterol. My Good Chlor remains a bit low, and my bad Chlor is going up a bit. Thyroid is fine T4 Thyroxine was 6. Fasting Blood Glucose went from an original of down to now: Creatinine-mg is at 1.

My Kidney Microablumin is at Finally, on my Liver function….. If all 3 numbers were off then I would worry. I wish they would because I have many of the blood work issues you do.

Has your Dr said anything? Would a reactive hypoglycemic have normal readings? I was 96, however, small amounts of sugar gives me a migraine. I get them often. You should take the recommended Metformin. If you have any spikes in blood sugar, then you may be a pre-diabetic. Metformin is a very safe drug and may help prevent you from getting diabetes.

Keep eating clean and exercising and you may never have to worry about diabetes. Exercise occasionally But it will not be out for a month. I ran out of time at the park for about minutes, depending on the day.

As people eat a lot of rice The second dish was delicious to eat here. Eat frequent Pepsi And the like libitum post Perhaps it tight. Have the opportunity to check the fasting. I am sure every eight hours. It might take some water which is not related. Fasting Blood, which has a value of normal reading is below , then generally are not more than I assume it yet? Or what is damaged or not. This is supposed to look after themselves and eat normal food like rice at every meal. Then the food should be eaten.

After modifying behavior and I should go check it again when glucose levels better. If glucose levels dropped to normal. I had to go through this diet right there. Do you have a family history of eye disease. Parents, no one is here.

Which i can see diabetes meters measure glucose levels? I would advise switching to water or perhaps to a diet drink. Eat more vegetables if you can. I have never been diagnosed but I do have several symptoms so it may be time… completely numb fingers on my left hand. I get up a minimum of 10 times a night to urinate, and there are times when I am uncontrollable bitchy.

Checking mine he came up with 90, 98, , and all fasting. There are other symptoms too. These are just the most bothersome. Oh, and the foot pain!!!

Please see a doctor, Rebecca. Your sugars are high, and getting up 10 times a night is very worrisome. You may have sleep apnea, a urinary infection, or this could be diabetes, or all three.

You need to test your blood 1 hour after eating and 2 hours after eating. But all these things can be prevented by getting treatment and following a proper diabetic diet. I will be going this Friday.

After 2 months with numb fingers, I am fearful. Thank you for your push. I now have an appointment. I am within a normal weight range but also 57 yrs old and diabetes runs in my family. Some have had transplants and amputations. While it may seem foolish to have put this off, I was just all too willing to put it down to arthritis.

Dentss, what does your doctor say? A fasting sugar above means you likely have diabetes. Are you being treated for it? Strange that you would be only after dinner if you are fasting.

Please talk it over with a professional if you can. I would say you have hyperglycemia which is usually caused by diabetes. But, you will need to see a doctor to confirm diabetes not some other illness. You should do it right away, the number one problem with diabetes is people do not actually believe they are sick with it and by the time they do something about , it becomes to late to save their kidneys or limbs. If you continue to go like this is a few years you will chronic kidney disease that will need a transplant or you will die , or you could lose your limbs to the disease.

The great thing is all this can be preventable by getting treated and keep your blood sugar in balance. Its a life change for sure , but it becomes much easier as time goes by and you can live a long and normal life.

You will need to get on blood pressure medicine because it is a bit high and high blood pressure leads to kidney failure. Go see your doctor, NOW! Your doctor will explain them and test for them. Your creative is high because there is probably kidney damage happening from the high morning overnight sugar levels. I repeat, go see your doctor now before you do more damage to your body!

You can still save your life and quality of life if you act now. It is just medicine you have to take. You should check her blood at 1 hour after eating and then 2 hours after eating. If it goes above its high but can go up to with in 1 hour. If its higher than after 2 hours then its high. She will need to control her blood sugar much better or end up on insulin or her kidneys will be destroyed and will need transplant or lead to death with in a few years.

That is unbelievably false and you should stop the fear mongering with diabetes. She can absolutely have pancakes and syrup and candy and soda… in moderation.

Some people dont know what on earth they are talking about and give terrible advise. Talk to a nutritionist. The problem with diabetes is people do not take it serious enough. None of that stuff is safe to eat. If you are having reading around then you should know you cannot eat that stuff. It should never go that high. Those numbers are showing that the diabetic is not controlling their disease. Not even the best informed people can predict how high blood sugar levels even proteins raise blood sugar levels will rise or how much insulin you always need.

They follow the FDA guidelines which are wrong! The best diet for a diabetic is a low carb, lchf, keto.. Thank you for the tip on language, Riva. My mom is diabetic. When she was diagnosed in May her fasting was and PP was I do check her BG after 3 hours, 4 hours as well but her BG falls slowly and not rising. Next day her fasting would be around This is happening since mid July I am happy with this half miracle but wish she have same dinner BG effect at lunch time as well.

How to investigate this and find the solution? With numbers like those, without medication, your mother appears to no longer have diabetes. Prediabetes maybe — check with her doctor. Since her body acts like that, maybe she could eat smaller lunches. Does she eat a good breakfast? That might make a difference.

I had just retired at I freaked when my PCP said I should be on injected insulin with my a1c at 11 and my blood sugars wayyyy off the chart. DT2 is a disease of obesity. Previously I would graze poorly at night. I was place on Metformin mg, 2x. My primary almost cried. Stopping noshing and droppingbody weight got me under control. Currently weigh about My numbers were running higher than normal but not as high as yours. My goal is or less. For the 3rd meal, I make sure to eat low sugar added meals.

Plus, I work out 3 times a week. At least 30 minutes of cardio plus a full body, all major muscle groups, weight machine workout. My workouts usually last about 90 minutes total. My recommendations for you is to keep lowering your weight.

Shoot for or less. Make sure your meals are healthy and eat a normal portion about the size of your fist. Cut out red meat totally. It looks like you get muscle workouts on your job but you need to make sure you get. Good cardio workout at least 3 and preferably 5 times a week. In my opinion, the thing that will help you the most right now is losing the weight and eating normal heathy portions.

During the mornings, your body has elevated blood sugar level spikes, serious spikes. But you need to check this problem and solve the real problem. My husband just checked his glucose levels after fasting. He works outside and it has been very hot here lately, but his clothes are drenched…he can literally wring out sweat from his shirts.

Should we be concerned about diabetes? Susan, a fasting of is classed as prediabetes, which is usually not treated with medications, but would benefit from changes like cutting way down on refined carbs and sugars. Of course, he should keep hydrated. Then I tested 6. They tested me because I was complaining about exhaustian and pain in my feet, legs, and hands.

I cannot stand for more than a few minutes. I have changed my diet around and lost about lbs in 8 months. My a1c are normal now, not even pre diabetc but the terrible neuropathy symtoms have not gone away.

He must stop the soda. He should control his portions and eat small amounts more often. He needs to have water with him and raw mixed nuts.

Not roasted in oil…but raw or dry roasted. You might have to get them from a health food store. I do not wish on anyone what happed to me. They should have explained this when I was pre diabetic. Now I have to stay healthy and strict on my diet and hope I will have some recovery over time. Jim, if you keep your glucose down to an A1C of 6 or so, your neuropathy will probably go away or at least get better.

He should get a physical with a complete blood test along with checking cholesterol and a1c. There are many things that can cause high blood sugar and the symptoms your husband has. It is best to catch things early. When it gets really nasty hot like it has been. I mix coconut water with water. The reason I steer clear of gatoraid is the sugar.

Find a brand coconut water with. And give you much needed potassium all day. None of the things I mentioned above will hurt him before you get to the doctor for conclusive tests. That way it is only 10g of sugar per 32 oz. It also reduces the cost. Your numbers sound like diabetes or maybe prediabetes, which is an early stage of diabetes. Since you are having a lot of symptoms, some medication might help.

I would see a doctor and also advise taking a couple of teaspoons of vinegar with meals and at bedtime. Keep testing and get on this. My numbers are great somedays and others not so much. I dont know if that is common? Also do you know if their is any corrlation between food allergies and diabetic symptoms? I read about a connection but you cannot always believe what you read.

Some medication might help, but you can also try cutting down your carbohydrate intake, moving more, and taking plant medicines such as bitter melon, guava, cinnamon, insulin plant, or mulberry. Most of these you can find as teas in Asian stores. David i am ashwani i got my test result of glucocheck was in morning empty stomach and i was also test at night it was so this is starting or in worst condition give me some advice on my that result.

If you are checking correctly and your meter is OK, your glucose numbers say you have diabetes although this should be confirmed with a health-care provider. Hope you can see a doctor, possibly start medication, and start using some of the ideas on our site and others to lower your numbers.

If you or anyone wants to know the truth of how to beat diabetes or loose weight, the ADA guidelines are a joke. I have been diagnosed for almost a year and I very quickly departed from the recommendations after realizing they are only there to keep you on meds and make you more sick.

I have now stopped taking Metformin and have normal blood sugar levels. This does not mean that I am not insulin resistant.

I do not know that yet. If you REALLY want to know how to beat type 2 diabetes, please watch these videos and learn how your body works and how you can very quickly get your glucose under control. In all sincerity, low carb diets are very difficult to maintain even with the strongest of willpower. If you try going Ketogenic, you will really learn what it feels like to be free from carb cravings which are like a drug addiction. It took me a long time of trying and failing and not accepting failure to get to these conclusions.

Best of luck to you and everyone who wants to beat diabetes and be healthy again. You need to get at minimum under lbs to help reduce the complications you can have with diabetes. The big ones being cardiovascular and nerve damage they can lead to heart attacks, strokes, kidney failure or amputation.

Those are the scary realities for us who suffer from diabetes. But, luckily controlling our disease can prevent or reduce our risks. The great thing about diabetes is that it can actually allow us to live a longer life, without many of us would continue bad habits of eating and not exercising.

Things that for sure will kill us. How long have you been diagnosed with diabetes? The hardest part is staying with your program. People improve their numbers and start going back to their old habits. I would work on cutting out all sugar from my diet and very little carbs. Just some whole grain sources of carbs. If you want to be healthy that is really how you have to eat for the rest of your life. It takes a long time to get use to it and the world is full of temptation but eventually you will be amazing healthy and fit.

What will help would be to eliminate the sweets and soda, also incorporate some exercise. Even somethong as simple as an evening walk around a block can help. Maybe after your numbers are under control you can add sweets back with moderation.

I was diagnosed in , I lost lbs and came off my meds altogether. I know that the closer I am to the more I need to watch my numbers. Its time to say goodbye to all your sweets. If you want to be healthy and live you need to eliminate them all.

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